Ox&p  ( 7 `79;=?A C@E`GIKOQ S@U`WY[]_a c@e`gikmoq s@u`wy{} @` @ ` @ ` @ ` @ ` ǀ ɠ U!Aa!!#AK7 `79;=?A C@E`GIKOQ S@U`WY[]_a c@e`gikmoq s@u`wy{} @` @ ` @ ` @ ` @ ` ǀ ɠ U!Aa!!#AHTURBOFLASH  QIFUNCKEY DEF 9t 0DIAL DIR kt &FLASH CNF t DESKTOP INF t FLASH TRN \I+IAL DIR I,IACE DO sI-rIACE2 DO xI.rIACE3 DO zI/qISH DO I0XIS1F DO I1gEAVEN DO I2eL DO I3|IS2F DO I4gFLASH RSC n[j5\FLASH PRG <\jMcIS1 DO IVIS2 DO IVELPHI DO INEST DO I`M DO IvENIE DO IFURBOST2CCA "IOOTCARTACC HIYSLINK DO OIRUNCH3 PRG ZIDCOPY2 TOS ]I _FUNCKEYDEF jI%oLPRO10 DO e&LSTR11 DO Dja(RAMIEL CON II*KMALL CON eJ=DEXTINFOTXT mPa ORILLASREV ^KbEXTOBS TXT \Sg3LSTR14 DO cjanyIBRARY8HLP #[SpIBRARY4HLP 2[Sq2TXFREV TXT 6\r7LZ11 DO ba|3LSTR  `XyENAME LOG ZZLRAT  b]zBLZ8 DO ca~bsavetz@northcoast.com Kevin 52220770557075055507703111103 #d - #E 5B 03 #W 00 00 00 04 4F 0F 08 A:\*.*@ #W 00 00 00 0A 4F 0F 00 @ #W 00 00 0E 09 2A 0B 00 @ #W 00 00 0F 0A 2A 0B 00 @ #M 04 00 00 FF F RAMDISK@ `@ #M 00 00 00 FF A FLOPPY DISK@ @ #M 01 00 00 FF B FLOPPY DISK@ @ #T 07 00 02 FF TRASH@ @ #F FF 04 @ *.*@ #D FF 01 @ *.*@ #G 03 FF *.APP@ @ #G 03 FF *.PRG@ @ #F 03 04 *.TOS@ @ #P 03 04 *.TTP@ @ #G 03 FF DESKCART@ `@ #G 03 FF DESKCART@ `@  { Any BBS 555-5555  IESKCARTINF $I ESKCARTRSC )IyESKCARTPRT 0I$ACRO NTB 6I&zCHEDULEDBF ;I'CHEDULEIDX =I(EST CDF hI DDRESS IDX qIEST IDX sI"OTES NTB vIDDRESS DBF {IbATDT|CONNECTNO CARRIER00BUSY@............#a0 #b0 #c7770007000600070055200505552220770557075055507703111103 #d - #E 1B 03 #W 00 00 00 08 50 09 08 A:\*.*@ #W 00 00 0D 08 2A 0B 00 @ #W 00 00 0E 09 2A 0B 00 @ #W 00 00 0F 0A 2A 0B 00 @ #M 00 00 00 FF A FLOPPY DISK@ @ #M 00 01 00 FF B FLOPPY DISK@ @ #T 00 06 02 FF TRASH@ @ #F FF 04 @ *.*@ #D FF 01 @ *.*@ #G 03 FF *.APP@ @ #G 03 FF *.PRG@ @ #F 03 04 *.TOS@ @ #P 03 04 *.TTP@ @ -__Lines per page :__XX_Line spacing :_X_Fixed tab spaces :_X___Left Margin :___XXX___Right Margin :___XXXOptions OFFOptions ONSERIALPARALLELNew PageErase!OFFONDeskCart Control PanelLOADSAVETIMEDATEAUTO ALARMSCLOCK DISPLAYONOFFONOFF@a __/__/__N@a __:__:__ _MNPCOLOR REDLESSMORELESSMORELESSMOREGREENBLUEFASTSLOWFASTSLOWFASTSLOWONOFFMOUSE CLICKKEY REPEATKEY DELAYKEY CLICKQUITDefaultsSet ClockOK  DeskCart Address Book # _ First name :_ X _Last name :_X_Address :_X_City :_X___State :___XXX_ Zipcode :_ X _Telephone 1 :_x_Telephone 2 :_x_Comment :_XADDUPDATEFIND   DELETEPRINTCLEARDIAL Calculator%x789-456+1230.=RADHEXPUTGETPISINECOSTANABSSQRTD1DLOGLNDIGCLEAR ALLCLRMCLREDeskCart RamDiskFree RAM: 9999K 360 Size : ____xxxxDName : _AKINSTALLREMOVEERASE!QUITDESK AccessoryCARTridge 1.02QUANTUM MICROSYSTEMS, INC.PO BOX 179LIVERPOOL, NY 13088 USA315-451-77471987 All Rights Reserved THE AUTHORS  John DeMar Bob Dolan Rick Gortatowsky DeskCart!DeskCart MacroKeysLOADSAVEERASE!ADDLISTQUITDeskCart UtilitiesCOPYDELETE!FORMAT!RENAMESTATUSQUITDeskCart Memory TestTOS Version 1.0 DeskCart V1.02 Status: RAM OK_STARTQUIT  DeskCart CardFile # _Index:_X_1:_X_2:_X_3:_X_4:_X_5:_X_6:_X__ 7:_X_8:_X_9:_XADDUPDATEFIND  DELETEPRINTCLEAR  DeskCart Screen PrinterUSE TO PRINT AT ANYTIMEVERTICALHORIZONTALLOAD DRIVEROKAStatus for drive: _XSpace available = 20000K Disk capacity = 20000K STATUSQUITDeskCart Disk Formatter_ Volume Label: _ X Drive: - A -- B -Sides:SINGLEDOUBLETracks:Normal80tr/10sec40 trackCANCELFORMAT!Select a file..._ File Name: _ X A:\*.*  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  FILENAME.EXT 9999K 11/29/86  SORTED BY NAME 999 FILES99 SELECTEDDisk:ABCDEFGHIJSORT...CANCELOKDeskCart Appointment Book#_ Month: _ X __Day : __XX_Time : __:__:__ __X____Year: ____XXXXSUBJECT__XCOMMENTS__X__X__X__XADDUPDATEFINDDELETEPRINTCLEARDATABASE INFORMATIONFilename :SMaximum Records :SRecords Entered :SFree Records :SOKRev 3/11/87CalendarControl PanelUSJanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecemberS M T W T F S DeskCart Calendar [1][Set the Time & Date|in the Cartridge?][ OK |CANCEL][1][You must close DeskCart's|windows before Loading][ OK ]ClockSundayMondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFridaySaturday(No Clock)Notebook DeskCart Notebook Save NoteBook to disk...[3][This NoteBook File exists... ][Replace|Cancel][3][Error Opening NoteBook File!][Retry|Cancel]Load NoteBook from disk...[1][Erase the current changes?][Cancel| Save |Erase!][3][Print NoteBook Pages... ][ ONE | ALL |CANCEL][1][Where do you want to go? ][ TOP |BOTTOM|CANCEL][2][Erase NoteBook... |Are you sure? ][ NO | YES ]Disk UtilitesSelect a file to Delete...[3][Delete this file?][DELETE!|Cancel]Enter new name for Select file to Rename...[1][New filename already exists!][Cancel][1][File not found!][Cancel]Select File to Copy...Select new path and filename...[2][Select number of disks...][ One | Two |CANCEL][1][File not found!][Cancel][3][Insert SOURCE Disk][ OK ][3][Insert DESTINATION Disk][ OK ][1][Filename already exists!][Cancel|Replace][1][Disk Error # !][ QUIT ][1][Note enough memory!][ OK ][1][Format Disk! Are you sure?][FORMAT|CANCEL][3][Error while formatting!][ABORT][1][Disk is now Formatted!][ OK ] DeskCart TypeWriter Accessory Misc.[3][All GEM windows are in use!| Close another window|before using this function!][ OK ][1][Need DESKCART.RSC!][RETRY|CANCEL]Print spoolerSystem Free Memory :Bytes left to Print :[2][Would you like to|finish this page?][ NO | YES ][3][Allocation will erase|current spooler data][ ERASE |CANCEL][3][System Allocation Failure!][ABORT][3][Cannot Allocate that much memory!][ABORT][2][Printer is not responding...][RETRY|ABORT][3][Zero allocation will erase|current spooler contents|and turn spooler off][ OK |CANCEL]Add a MacroKeyCapital for , lower for ADefine Key: _X_%_%X%_%_%X%_%_%X%CANCELADD Free Ram = [3][Remove RamDisk? ][ OK |CANCEL][3][Erase RamDisk? ][ OK |CANCEL][3][Delete Exising RamDisk? ][ OK |CANCEL][3][Error Allocating RamDisk!][CANCEL|RETRY][1][RamDisk installed!][ OK ]Baudrate or : 1=300, 2=1200, 3=2400, 4=4800, 5=9600 : DeskCart VT-52 Mode. to exit, for settings.Parity or : 0=none, 1=mark, 2=even, 3=odd :Duplex or : 0=full, 1=half :Select Macro Key File...Press any key to continue...Press any key to return...[0][List Macro Key definitions...][SCREEN|PRINTER|CANCEL][1][Erase Macro Keys in memory?][CANCEL|ERASE!][1][Macro Key memory is full!][ OK ]Bad RAM at: RAM ok seconds for testRAM size is   TOS Rev. A:\DESKCART\ADDRESS.DBFATDT^0, ^1  ^5, ^4, ^3 ^2| ^6 ^7 ^8|^1 ^0|^5|^4,^3 ^2||||[3][Cannot create database!|Check diskette...][ABORT][1][Dial Phone number... ][Phone 1|Phone 2|CANCEL][0][Please wait until modem|has dialed then select][VOICE|MODEM][2][Print Record List|or Mailing Label(s)?][ LIST |LABELS|CANCEL][2][Current record or all records?][CURRENT| ALL |CANCEL][2][Select the type of Dialing...][PULSE|TONE]^0|1: ^1|2: ^2|3: ^3|4: ^4|5: ^5|6: ^6|7: ^7|8: ^8|9: ^9||^1 ^2, ^0 ^3||Subject: ^4| ^5| ^6| ^7| ^8|||JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecemberCardFileSelect a Card FileA:\DESKCART\SCHEDULE.DBF[0][Invalid month!|Must enter at|least 3 characters][ OK ][3][DeskCart couldn't install Alarms][CANCEL][3][Maximum Alarms exceeded!][CANCEL][3][This Alarm has no Time data!][CANCEL][1][You have missed an appointment][DISPLAY|SKIP|CANCEL]][ OK ]|][ OK |SHOW COMMENTS]][ OK |COMMENTS|SNOOZE][0][DeskCart Alarm! |   @ @ A BЈ @ @ @ @   ?  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DIR TEMP*.* DELETE TEMPRENAME LOG2 TEMPEDIT LOG2 New LOG2 created on Bob Crowell... . /S+% The AssIsTant (c) AssIsTantDIR LOG*.* VIEW TEMPCALL LOG YYYYNYNYYNON THE HOTSEAT The STONE Interview q  !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~J !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ } !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}  Bishop of Battle @BISH.DO 9438181 CompuServe 1 @CIS1.DO 4383000 CompuServe 1F @CIS1F.DO 4387960 CompuServe 2 @CIS2.DO 4383000 CompuServe 2F @CIS2F.DO 4387960 Eagles Nest 1 @ENEST.DO 3535091 Eagles Nest 2 @ENEST.DO 3535104 GEnie @GENIE.DO 3510840 MacComm (Keith Monchik) 3511525 PC-Heaven @HEAVEN.DO 7242281 Penthouse (Jon Procter) 2320963 PeopleLink @PL.DO 7517912 RIACE (ARIS) @RIACE2.DO 5214234 RIACE (me) @RIACE.DO 5214234 RIACE (me, too)@RIACE3.DO 5214234 Syslink 1 @SYSLINK.DO 2721138 Syslink 2 @SYSLINK.DO 2721239 X - Delphi @DELPHI.DO 2730200 Y - FM Station @FM.DO 9442312 Z - Information Exchange 3335912 B>WA User:| 2| >WA Password:| D3NOG| >WA Password:| HI*POWER| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ATARI| >WA details| | >WA User:| 29| >WA Password:| MEDIUM| >WA Password:| HI*POWER| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ATARI| >WA PROCO| | >WA User:| 100| >WA Password:| ROCA| >WA Password:| HI*POWER| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ATARI| >WA PROCO| | >WA RETURN...| | >WA User:| 12| >WA Password:| WILD| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ATARI| >PA 1| | >WA Name:| CIS| >WA ID:| 73725,1611| >WA :| julio*roca| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE VIDTEX| >WA =no?| | >WA name?| BOB| >WA name?| CROWELL| >WA Echo| CRAZY| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ANSI| >LO FK OFUNCKEY.DEF| | | >WA =| D1| >WA @| C 31270| >WA ID:| BOBBY| >WA :| DUE*LAZ| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE ATARI| >PA 1| | >WA Name:| CIS| >WA ID:| 72705,1351| >WA :| julio*roca| >RT| >CA ON| >MODE VIDTEX| #J$[YQ\hChecksumBlock sizeTimingPad last blockOKXMODEM PARAMETERSCRCRegular128 bytes1 K-byteTightLooseCtrl-ZSize byte CANCEL ASCII UP/DOWNLOAD OPTIONSLINE PAUSE0123456789DC2/4 PROTOCOLONOFFSTRIP LINEFEEDSONOFFMETERINGONOFFONOFFPROMPTINGPROMPT CHAR_XOKCANCELRS232 ConfigurationBAUD RATE110300600120024004800960019200Word size8 Bits7 BitsParityNONEODDEVENOKCANCELStop bits12=F1:OKF2:F3:F4:F5:F6:F7:F8:F9:F10:F11:F12:F13:F14:F15:F16:F17:F18:F19:F20:SAVECANCELFUNCTION KEYEDITORLOAD Dial Directory DIAL DIRECTORYNAMENUMBER[Dialer SettingsPrefix:_ X Suffix:_XMConnect:_ X MFailed1:_ X MFailed2:_ X MFailed3:_ X MFailed4:_ X Alter SettingsDial:00Redial: __99timesDial:Use ShadowLOADSAVE OK CANCELLong Distance access code:File selection Capture Dial Dir. Translation Function Keys Configuration CANCEL EDIT FUNCTION SELECTORFunction keysDial Directory Translation Table Xmodem ParametersRS232C ParametersAscii UL\DL ParametersCANCEL Desk File Edit Upload Download Block Options About FLASH - Desk Accessory 1 Desk Accessory 2 Desk Accessory 3 Desk Accessory 4 Desk Accessory 5 Desk Accessory 6 Load... Save... Merge...- Delete...- Quit Function keys Dial Directory Xmodem param. RS232 config. Ascii UL/DL Translation Shadow Setup File Xmodem File Ascii- Capture Xmodem Capture Ascii- Block Xmodem Block Ascii- Shadow...  Xmodem Ascii- Shadow... Mark Start [F1] Mark End [F2] Clear marks [F3] Find Start- Delete Block [F4] Reformat Block- Save Block Print Block Append Block Help... Editing Help... Set Clock... Status... Set drive/path... Word Wrap- Find String [F5] Search/Replace... Form Feed [F6] Print Capture- Clear capture!RESTORELOADSAVEOKCANCELID Gary Yost Status Display CaptureState:Size:Used:Free:XMODEMBitBlocksTimingPaddingDIALERPrefix:Suffix:MC:MF1:MF2:MF3:MF4:Redials:SwitchesDuplex :Echoplex :Auto LF :Strip Bit:Rubout :Translation:Printer :ASCIILine Pause:DC2/4 :Strip LF:Metering:Prompting:Pr. Char :SETTINGSBaudParitybit WordsModeStop bitsMiscellaneousAuto Command:Answerback :Default PathnameANSWERBACK - AN [string]APPEND BLOCK - AP BL [filename]ASCII PARMS - ASCII [0-9 d s m p \x]AUTO COMMAND - AUTO [command]BAUD RATE - BAUD [baud rate] Alt-BBELL- B1 or B2 (Single or Repeat)CAPTURE STATUS - CAPTURE [on off / cl] Alt-C/Alt-WCLOCK DISPLAY - CLOCKDIAL PHONE # - DIAL [name #number] Alt-TDISK DIRECTORY - DDIR [drive][pathname] Alt[1-9]DISK FREE SPACE- DFREEDO MACRO FILE - DO [filename] Alt-ADOWNLOAD ASCII - DLOAD ASCII [filename] Alt-DDOWNLOAD XMODEM- DLOAD XMODEM [filename] Alt-RDOWNLOAD YMODEM-BATCH - DLOAD YBDEFAULT PATH - DPATH [pathname] Alt-QDUPLEX TOGGLE - DUPLEX [full half /] Alt-PNEXTEXITFREE MEMORY - FREE [Kbytes to release]FUNCTION KEYS - FKEY [1-20] [string]ECHOPLEX TOGGLE- ECHO [on off /]EDIT SETTINGS - EDIT [as di fk tr xm] Alt-EEND DO FILE - END [In DO files only]EXECUTE FILE - EX [filename][parameters]FORM FEED - FFEEDGOTO FUNC. KEY - GOTO [1-20]HELP - HELP Help KeyHANGUP MODEM - HG (Hardware hangup)HIRES FLIPFLOP - HIRES [on off /]IFIN IF - See documentation for details.INPUT VARIABLE - INP [$A - $Z] See documentation.JUMP TO LABEL - JMP [label] Note: DO Files only!KILL FILE - KILL [filename] Alt-KLINEFEEDS - LFEEDS [on off /] Alt-LLABEL - L: [label] Note:DO Files only!NEXTEXITLOAD CAPTURE - LOAD CA [filename]LOAD CONFIG. - LOAD CO [filename]LOAD DIAL DIR. - LOAD DI [filename]LOAD FUNC. KEYS- LOAD FK [filename]LOAD TRANS. - LOAD TR [filename]LOG TO CAPTURE - LOG [string]MARK BLOCK - MK [TOP BOT CLEAR]MENU MODE - MENUMODEM CONNECT - MCONNECT [string]MODEM FAILED - MF [string] or MF[1234] [string]MODE CHANGE - MODE [atari ansi vidtex] Alt-MMODEM PREFIX - MPREFIX [string]MODEM SUFFIX - MSUFFIX [string]OPEN FILE - OP [filename or BLK: or BUF:]PAUSE - PAUSE [seconds]PARITY - PY [odd even none] Alt-BPRINTER ECHO - PRINTER [on off /] Alt-HNEXTEXITQUERY USER - QU [prompt|prompt] [$A - $Z]REDIALS - REDIAL [0-99]RESET TIMER - RTIMERRUBOUT TOGGLE - RUBOUT [on woff /]SAVE BLOCK - SAVE BLOCK [filename]SAVE CAPTURE - SAVE CAPTURE [filename]SAVE CONFIG. - SAVE CO [filename]SAVE DIAL DIR. - SAVE DI [filename]SAVE FUNC. 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We hope that you found it interesting and informative. This was our first attempt at using the new Convention Center Software, with its enhanced commands for holding a moderated question and answer session and generally, we feel it was a great success. We'd like to schedule more of these sessions in the future and welcome your comments and suggestions. Due to the large turnout, and the minor 'hiccup' by the system software, many of you may not have had a chance to ask Sam your question, so we'd like to ask those of you with unanswered questions to forward them on to the sysops (or just reply to this EASYPLEX) and we'll pass them along to ATARI Corp. directly. Again, thanks for your participation in this conference and we look forward to scheduling more in the months ahead. Sincerely yours, Ron Luks Manager ATARI Forums on CompuServe -$ The following is a transcript of the SAM TRAMIEL Conference on CIS Monday, October 3, 1988, prepared by Ron Luks. No editing of questions or answers was done. -$ % Conference has begun (SYSOP-Ron)[76703,254] Hello everyone.... Tonights special CONFERENCE with.... Sam Tramiel, the President of ATARI COrp. ... will begin in just a few seconds. .... To ask Sam a Question, you must type /QUE.... to get into the queue. .... I'll recognize the next person in line one at a time.... Please keep your questions simple.... and ask only one question at a time. .... Mark Jansen of ATARI will be typing for Sam tonight. .... Does Sam have any opening statement.... before we open the floor for questions? (ga Mark) (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] Sorry for not being available last Monday night. There was a conflict with a Jewish holy day. There is another Jewish holy day today... but I dared not do it again. :-) So here we are. (SYSOP-Ron)[76703,254] thx Sam. We all appreciate you showing up here.... to answer some very nagging questions. .... okay first user. % Moderator recognizes queue #1 Mark Woolworth <32> (Mark Woolworth)[71231,401] I really dont want to start out on a negative point, but here goes... I was one of the people that was demonstarting the new machines at the fall COMDEX show last year, and most of these machines were promised for sometime this year. At least at the prest point I have not seen any of these machines released. What is the status on them, and when will they be out in the United States? GA (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] You were clever not to mention the model names... at present I think that we are shipping all the models in... Europe, even the Abaq , to developers. We will start shipping... in earnest to the US market in early 1989, including the st.... and the line of pc compatibles and our new members of the ST... family. The Abaq is now called the ATW (Atari work Station)... ga % Moderator recognizes queue #2 RICHARD MATAKA <43> (RICHARD MATAKA)[72317,1761] Hello Sam...first of all, i want to congratulate you and you sons and others who have resurrected Atari from an almost certain death....but, I am still somewhat questioning the support from Atari US. As you know, there are only a few US publications supporting the ST. Now Compute ST has decided to no longer publish and with the questionable support from Atari, Word Perf Corp seems to have put there product developemnt on hold. Also other software 3rd party companies are not supporting the ST. How will you convince these companies and others who may start a company to suport the ST? What kind of incentives will you be offering or will you just let everything come out of Europe which is where the current bulk of ST support is based? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] Thankyou for the fine complement regarding my sons but they... are only 7 and 4 years old respectively. I am the son of .... Jack Tramiel and me and Leonard and Garry are brothers. .... (RICHARD MATAKA)[72317,1761] sorry i meant your father and yourself and borthers (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] I am as frustrated as you are and probably more so. ... the present problem is that the dram problem is causing us grreat delivery problems and we... can not keep up with the demand in Europe and other parts of... the world. We just signed a major deal with a big Dram... supplier and the situation will get better I hope in early 1989.. We will and do support developers all over the world and... suggest that US developers learn how to export which would.... help themselves and the economy. I am sorry to see Compute... drop the ST mag but I hope that they will revisit the issue... when they see tens of thousands ST s sold monthly in the us.... Last month I was in Germany for the Annual Atari Fair... in Dusseldorf. It was incredible, over 30,000 over weekend... ga (RICHARD MATAKA)[72317,1761] Sam, i appreciate your answer but.... while the support in Europe I agree is great, here it is another story.. As you may or may not kknow, I was an author for ST XPress for about a year writing Critics Corner....and the public view of Atari support is quite contrasting to Ataris version..How will you and Atari hope to change this US view of your marketing strategy so that support will be forthcoming for the Atari computer products?.ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] Right now we do not really have a major marketing thrust as you.. know. However, we do think that we have user support and good . inhouse people at Atari US that more than willing to help ... with almost any problem. WE definitelyy plan to bring in software from Europe... ...but "development support is very very...what?" (RICHARD MATAKA)[72317,1761] [_Sam, I think that that maybe where your main problem is....user support is excellent however, development support is very very strained..and it is the development people that you have to win over if you are going to be a serious computer competitor in the US ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We are not strained, and are happy to help anyone... I am sure once we are selling large quantities in the US, any strains that exist will disappear. In the meanwhile, export to Europe. We do, and we like it! :-) ga % Moderator recognizes queue #3 charles medley <16> (charles medley)[72460,273] OK.... I have little time here. I have 3 3 questions. 1) What is REALLY in the NEW TOS. 2) What is the final news on the 68030 OK. What is the news on the 68030 TT? Can a MEGA be used for it (SYSOP-Ron)[76703,254] just one question please, Charles. (charles medley)[72460,273] What is the fate of the 68030 box? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We have already published the details of new TOS to developers... and will do so for the rest of the users when it is released... We are working on the TT, and hope to show it in early '89. Until then, no further comments on the TT... ...but it will knock your socks off! :-) ga % Moderator recognizes queue #4 Michael Lynch <21> (Michael Lynch)[76056,1332] Do you have any plans for an IBM 286 board for the ST line? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] No. ga % Moderator recognizes queue #5 Steve Mortimer/NNQ <5> (Steve Mortimer/NNQ)[76703,1077] Many developers and dealers are not going to support the ST anymore or are on the brink of that decision. It is essential to retain what support we have... left. Will you consider advertising to increase awareness till the "big pus" or sign up a national computer chain stocked with a few STs diverted from Europe? GA "push" not "pus" (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We feel that advertising without product availability... is helpful in selling our competitors' machines. ...and therefore, will just waste money. As far as a national computer chain is concerned,... we are already diverting machines to the US and ship them to our few but loyal ST dealers... ga % Moderator recognizes queue #6 =Bandit= (tm) <13> (=Bandit= (tm))[73637,3051] 1st, thanks for coming.. BALLPARK Date/Price of new TOS ROMS to USERS? Who is Neils replacement? ga (SYSOP-Ron)[76703,254] (Everyone Please-- just one question per turn) (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] Date: early 1989, depending on ROM deliveries... Price - Reasonable. :-) ga (SYSOP-Ron)[76703,254] C'mon Sam. "Reasonable"???? How about a price range? (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] You know that we are always reasonable, Ron. :-) % Moderator recognizes queue #7 Ed Waldorph <39> (Ed Waldorph)[73637,42] There has been much talk from dealers and former dealers and employees about the dificulty of making a business selling the ST line in the U.S. Much criticism has been leveled at Atari for lack of dealer support. There is some indication that the situation is changing but in this entire forum only _one_ dealer has spoken out to defend the company. What is Atari doing to increase its delear support? How are you going to increase the delear base? Have you considered setting up a section for dealers here or over at Genie so they can talk directly to Marketing and Sevice and among themselves, and encouraging them to use it? sorry ron. its really 1 question ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We already have a system for Service Centers, Sales Reps, and... dealers, run from Sunnyvale. ga % Moderator recognizes queue #8 Rex Reade <17> (Rex Reade)[73710,1052] Sam, Why was Mike Dendo [VPU-SALES] telling people in Michigan that Atari HAD 3 soft quarters and needed strong 4th to survive! This is a v di that make it? (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We just had three RECORD quarters, and I am sure that someone... misquoted Mike. ga % Moderator recognizes queue #10 Bob Dolson <55> (Bob Dolson)[71036,213] Why don't you provide an easier upgrade path for memory, drives, etc, so that the 'poor' owners of 520 STFM's for instance would find it easier to get double sided drives, and more memory? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] It is a tradeoff between cost and upgradability... Adding the upgradability will increase the cost of _every_ unit. ga % Moderator recognizes queue #11 Joe Fowler <22> (Joe Fowler)[76214,2253] Thanks. Mr. Tramiel. We heard a lot about the ST tonight. I would like to know what... Future plans Atari has for the 8 bit line of machines, the best made on the ... market? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] We agree that the Atari 8-bit line is the best available... However, the US market seems to want more powerful machines. We are selling many tens of thousands of the XE/XL line... in Europe, and in the middle east, and in Latin America,. We are trying to push the XE Game System in the US, as a computer and a game for the same price as the Nintendo... with an exercise mat. (i.e. $149) ga % Moderator recognizes queue #12 edward giertuga <28> (edward giertuga)[72777,1765] You folks make a beautiful machine, but your marketing strategy ... is scaring the heck out of me. Have you read David Small's message (#111539) regarding Neil Harris' resignation? It's worth reading. Any c (Sam Tramiel @ Atari)[70007,1135] By the way, there is now a fifty dollar rebate... on the XE Game machine... To be honest, I have not read David Small's message, but I... *H At this point, CIS had some system problems and over half of the attendees were kicked out of the CONFERENCE and the current question queue was disrupted. The automatic transcripting software was interrupted and the remainder of the transcript was pieced together from the capture buffers of the sysops. I believe the result is an accurate representation of the ending questions and answers. SYSOP*Ron Luks *I (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) As I was saying before that "glitch"... I wish Neil a lot of success in his new job... it was a pleasure to work with him over the years that I have... known him. ga (SHAWN SMILEY) Are you planning to make any additions to the ST like stereo sound and speach synthesis? (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) No comment. Sorry, but we do not want to promise new things... until they are ready. ga Currently Recognized: tc User ID & User #: [70247,1247] <3> (tc) What about the portable ST? Fact or fiction? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) Fact. We are working on it, and will ship it as soon as it is ready. ga Currently Recognized: Steve Mortimer User ID & User #: [76703,1077] <10> (Steve Mortimer) Do you forsee any major changes at Atari or the ST market in the near future... This includes the possibility of a revamped ST based on new technology like the... 68020/30 while remaining ST compatible? GA (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) I hope so...we plan for Atari to be number two or number three... in the world personal computer market and we hope to make the... ST one of the standard machines in the US during 1989. I would prefer not to comment on details of future ST or TT... machines at present. ga Currently Recognized: R.Reade [ST-REPORT] User ID & User #: [73710,1052] <2> (R.Reade [ST-REPORT]) Sam, A direct answer pleasae, What is ATARI going to do to rectify the attiytude Word Perfect has towards the way You do business in the USA? the freeze on development because of the unstable US market caused by Atari's unpredictable moves in the last 6 months... (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) I think I answered that question before... i.e. we plan to sell a lot of machines in the US. ga (R.Reade [ST-REPORT]) still no answer though .GA (SYSOP-Ron) I would like to apologize But I just have been informed by Sam T. .... That he has to leave in 5 minutes. .... He is willing to reschedule another CONFERENCE.... in the (near) future. .... So Since we have so many unanswered questions.... I dont know if it would be fair to all concerned.... to let 1 or 2 more go, so I'll just end it here. .... Would SAm like to make some general closing comments...; in his last few minutes? ga (Sam Tramiel @ Atari) I appreciate the support of all of you, and I really hope that in 1989, you will not be such a minority in the US personal computer world. It is a pleasure to see Atari so successful in Europe... and I'm sure that with more DRAM as we expect in '89, we will be able to be successful in the US as well. Good night. ga *I Attendence at this Presidential Conference hit a high of 108 users, and averaged over 95 people for most of the evening. Here's a list of most of the members attending: User User ID Nod Name ---- - --- - 1 72411,2465 DCF Charles Crook 2 76703,4363 LIS Mike Schoenbach 3 71777,2140 GBO Ron Kovacs 4 76410,70 COL Ricky Costa 5 76703,1077 BNG Steve Mortimer/NNQ 6 71270,1043 WPL Vince Parker 7 75046,467 FLM JERRY C. (G.A.G.) 8 74425,145 WVA Ron Hunt 9 76004,1601 MFL Robert Birmingham 10 76703,4223 MFL Dave Groves 11 76703,254 DFL SYSOP-Ron 12 70007,1070 TTC Julius Oklamcak 13 73637,3051 WIL =Bandit= (tm) 14 76667,3363 LAS WILLIAM COLEMAN 15 71251,1430 LOU Doug Lampert 16 72460,273 DWC charles medley 17 73710,1052 JAX Rex Reade 18 71451,1123 BUF John Spirko 19 72250,1727 DAO Beth Campbell 20 76615,2013 WBR Richard Huffman 21 76056,1332 TTC Michael Lynch 22 76214,2253 RAL Joe Fowler 23 72000,111 CIN Chuck Beal 24 70007,417 DCF Cathryn Conroy /OLT 25 72310,3422 SCS Joe Schmidt 26 70347,1713 DCI Bill Halvorsen 27 76004,1666 SCE Roger Brown 28 72777,1765 QEI edward giertuga 29 72327,3042 LSM JOHN NAGY 30 71451,1274 SPF Ronald Hakola 31 71441,44 WIL STEVEN J. HARDWICK 32 71231,401 LAS Mark Woolworth 33 70775,712 MIA Sara Groves 34 72347,1020 TOR Bill Gallagher 35 73637,2512 CGL Chris Herr 36 73437,3140 QLA Leon Moncla 37 71550,3312 ANN Bob Retelle 38 76703,4061 GNC Bill Aycock 39 73637,42 SFM Ed Waldorph 40 71641,3024 DES SHAWN SMILEY 41 73637,1107 SYR Ken Brick 42 73765,1173 HAR Tim Early 43 72317,1761 NYJ RICHARD MATAKA 44 72571,2563 MLB Chris Connor 45 76515,1201 TTC Paul Lantz 46 70247,1247 MEX tc 47 72347,1646 POR BILL BLOSE 48 73250,1543 LIU Rick Williams 49 76157,170 AGA Andy Dorman 50 72227,3507 TTC alan page 51 74166,2207 LTR Don Spector 52 76703,2007 TTC Michael R. 53 73310,761 DEQ Chris Sorensen 54 75136,3077 AKO BYRON WALTER 55 71036,213 CNJ Bob Dolson 56 72767,1212 DET Eric Guy 57 72025,117 MFL Harry Callesis 58 72561,3562 ANY Ian Herrick 59 70007,1135 SCS Sam Tramiel @ Atari 60 72371,3074 SLN Ben Stuyts 61 71550,1104 BOL Neil Redding 62 73577,534 DCI Brian Biggs 63 71451,610 MON G. RUDY 64 73006,505 CNJ nancy 65 76367,3657 DNC Sandy and Me 66 73725,1611 PRV Bob Crowell 67 73217,14 SCE Bill Cranor 68 70135,563 ANY Timothy Onders 69 75176,216 CGL John 70 73407,1217 AUR Jim Goebel 71 73157,1643 KTN Martin Hodge 72 70605,417 VAN M. Markowitz 73 74435,260 NYJ GREG CURATOLO 74 76505,2440 HON gary gray 75 72750,2007 BUD GO ATARI8 76 73637,2707 ORL Steve Blackwell 77 76157,30 ANB Rick Meredith 78 73177,2024 QFM Chris Richards 79 73657,2662 HVN Ruth Coy 80 76515,3055 LAF David Ramsden 81 73637,377 QDI Schmitz-Moormann,CS 82 72561,2667 NRL BRUCE JENSEN 83 71521,2200 SEA ALAN REEVE 84 76704,41 MAU don 85 70565,421 TOR Alan Haskell 86 72331,2464 QEI JUAN C. L. 87 74435,1015 HAR Murray Levine 88 73637,2723 MVA Dave Ward 89 73707,1152 QEA Chris Karson 90 76703,4364 FTL Dan R. 91 72327,2670 TAM Robert J. Robertson 92 72445,1155 DCI Tom Zelinski 93 72347,1754 QCE Mark Britton (end of text) * Transcript of the recent Dave Small conference held on GEnie on his recently introduced Spectre 128 MAC emulator. =J (C) 1987 by Atari Corporation, GEnie, and the Atari Roundtables. May be reprinted only with this notice intact. The Atari Roundtables on GEnie are *official* information services of Atari Corporation. To sign up for GEnie service, call (with modem) 800-638-8369. Upon connection type HHH (RETURN after that). Wait for the U#= prompt. Type XJM11877,GEnie and hit RETURN. The system will prompt you for your information. =J Room 1, the General Club room. Stenographer is Jennifer Marlowe <[Holly] HS> Welcome one and all to our formal conference with BOTH Dave and Sandy Small. As most of you know, Dave first brought us Magic Sac, and his most recent contribution to the good of man is Spectre 128. For those of you unfamiliar with Formal Conferences, I'll give you a brief overview then I'l let Dave/Sandy talk a second, then I'll start taking questions from the floor. If you want to ask a question, please use the /RAIse command to raise your hand and be put into line... When you're finished with your question, give Sandy/Dave the go ahead by signalling "ga" or some such. When you've finished completely, it really helps if you let me know. When you /RAIse your hand, I will try to Ack you and tell you who you follow. I will also d my best to give you a warning when you're up. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Hi, all. Tonight it's my pleasure to have my better half, Sandy, to come talk with me. My flight to the bay area was cancelled today, so this is all rather impromptu for me (*grin*). The previous month has been the busiest month of our lives; we're here to clear up and straighten out any problems, answer any questions, and in general support the people who are helping us out with Spectre 128. When you have a question, could you direct it to either myself or Sandy, (Sandy handles shipping/marketing, I handle tech questions?). Thanks much for coming; hope we can have some fun here. .ga., Holly. <[Holly] HS> Okay... thanks... I've got a LONG list already... so hang tight. (It'll take a sec to Ack you all...) <[BEDDY BARE] JOHN-CARTER> DAVE WE ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SPECTRE WE CANT move files onto the hard drive keep getting (filename) COULDNT BE WRITTEN AND WAS SKIPPED (DISK ERROR). ANY IDEAS OR DO YOU NEEED MORE INFO ABOUT THE SETUP ...GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> John, there's several possibilities here. First, is old Magic Sac had a bug in HFS which could cause this (the filename leength bug). Second, you could have a damaged system/finder. Third, you could have bad spots on your hard disk; fourth, you could be getting intermittent data transfer errors. It's hard to tell right off which of these it is. This message indicates either directory problems (can't find the data), or verify problems (can't read-after-write verify the data just written). It's not more specific. This is the first report of such problems, so my guess is it's specific to your equipment, alas. .ga. <[BEDDY BARE] JOHN-CARTER> WELL. I KNOW TH HD IS FINE. WE ALSO REFORMAT THE DRIVE TO BE SURE. DIDNT HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH THE OLD MAC SAC,SO WE WILL KEEP TRYING AND LET YOU KNOW. GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> If you could e-mail me more specifics, I'll be happy to work with you and check into it. It is faintly possible that there's a marginal SCSI situation at work here, and with the higher speed of the spectre, if the equipment is a little off, I suppose there could be trouble. (First report of it, though.) .ga. <[BEDDY BARE] JOHN-CARTER> thanks done Hi Dave and Sandy ..SPECTRE is AWESOME!!! Thanks.. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Hiya-- was nice meeting you in LA! Dave:Have you had any luck with the Word 3.0 memory problem? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Yes and no. Yes, in that I've got it traced to a specific piece of code, no, in that it isn't fixed quite yet. See, I run two printouts of the code, one under 64K ROM, one under 128K ROM, and compare. (They're both about 1.5" high). So, I'm zeroing in on it; these things just take a little time. .ga. Thanks.. I appreciate the effort. .ga. Thanks Holly .ga. Hi Dave and Sandy...thanks for a great product <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> You're quite welcome... Will you be doing any future products for the St and will you be supporting other machines??? ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sandy: Yes, we will bedoing future products for the ST. However, we don't like vaporware, so don't prefer to talk about them before getting them to beta test, where they're real. Will you be supporting other machines?? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Darlah > There's a product called Hyperweb I'm working on that will work for many different machines, but it's still mostly plans. The ST products are closer to reality, though. .ga By the way, Pagemaker is fantastic on Spectre. ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Glad you got it going okay, Darlah; it's a lot of fun on the big screen, no? its great. again thanks. ga Two questions, one for each of you. How close are you to your shipping the October 8 orders? And second, will Transverter be of use to be able to bounce files back and forth between different ST/ACK partitions? I know that Doug could probably help out here... Also does Quark 2.0 work on Spectre? Adobe 1.1? GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We're still sorting it out, jussec Sandy: On the oct. 8 orders, some will going out the end of this week, the rest (after oct. 8) will go out around the end of the month. I fired Raving Idiot Box Supply, and we're thus able to ship immediately (in plainer packaging, true). Dave: I'm not too up to date on Tranasverter, but Doug has a history of doing good things, and I believe it's capable of moving files between HD  partitions nowadays. Quark seems fully compatible, and Adobe does too. (BTW, we're going to license Doug's program for 2.0 release, as it's so good, and pay him royalties on it -- he deserves it.) .ga Thanks for the info. And thanks again for being the best customer-orientated group in the business! GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sandy: thanks. We've found that the only way to do business that really works is to ensure word of mouth advertising, since we're not big enough for big ad budgets. So we try to make our customers into our best salesman, in a way. .ga. One last thing. If you need my help for ads, newsletters, etc. I am always at your service. Go ahead Holly. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sandy: Thanks, and we just might! <[Ken @ Atari] SYNERGIST> Well, now that Gadgets is fully in operation as a true Mom + Pop operation... I'm wondering how much help James has been with marketing and such? ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> James is our production manager, Ken. He determines how much gets done, and when, too. Actually, one night the office phone rang, and the door was unlocked, so Eric answered it. He talked with the customer (Eric is 6) for some time, then handed the phone to Jennifer, (5). The customer, a teacher, was tickled to be talking to the kids. Finallly, he asked Jenny what TV program she was watching (it could be heard in the background); she said, "I'm not watching TV, silly, I'm talking to you!" It must have worked; we got his order the next day! *grin* .ga. <[Ken @ Atari] SYNERGIST> Well, on a heavier note... ;-) How much luck have you had with Quickdraw + the laser printer, and is there a chance that you can support big monitors (like moniterm)... our VDI guy is drooling ove being able to run Spectre on a Mega hooked up to a 24" monitor. ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Monitor first -- as soon as I can get one, or see one, I can support it. It's a matter of adding a pull-down to the main Spectre page, where you can specify the X and Y resolution, and it'll go. The Mac OS is *very* device independent on the screen; it supports big screens easily. As for Quickdraw, etc, it's just a matter of time. I've been pretty busy hunting down the 832K bug that only occurs on 64K ROMs on 1 meg machines, and it's been a toughie; the other two big bugs are fixed now. Since General Computer and Apple both do Quickdraw laser printers, I imagine I can too ... the theoretical side is pretty clear. I'm hoping to have something to show at Comdex this year, if I'm in Atari's booth. .ga. <[Ken @ Atari] SYNERGIST> I sure hope so too! Thanks,Dav Sandy -- Will any dealer orders be in the Oct. 8th shipment? If not, will dealers' orders ship at monthend? ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sandy: The problem with shipping dealer orders is that since we fired Raving Idiot Box Company, we're behind on display packaging. We're going to contact dealers individually on if they want plainer packaging immediately, or if they care to wait for on-the-shelf packaging. (Raving Idiot promised us stuff by Sept. 12; they failed totally. We're going with local sources and paying a fee to expedite delivery.) Sorry for the hassle ... I'll probably be contacting you, and other dealers, tomorrow; we're doing a big shipment Friday. .ga. We're sure looking forward to them (WHENEVER they arrive) at Software Plus in Wheeling, Il. I'll let the boss know you'll be calling soon. Thanks! All done, Holly. ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Jeff > Thanks again; sorry the box company messed up our shipdates. <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> Thanks Holly, Lemme bounce back about 45 minutes and ask a question that should have been answered first... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> "I will not raise taxes!" "General Noriega! General Noriega!" <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> I would like to know exactly what Gadgets by Small is...and what this spectre 128 is and what else you 2 do for us ? GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Bill -- you're absolutely correct. Spectre 128 is the next generation Macintosh emulator for the ST, following my Magic Sac (first try). Spectre is much more compatible, much much faster, and features "future compatibility" -- e.g., new software is likely to run with it. It can use the 128K Apple standard ROMS, or, the older 64K ROMs, if you can't get the 128's immediately. The idea is, you can run the mature, well integrated Mac software base on the ST's very fast hardware, and get the best of both worlds. (You are correct-- I should have summarizesd this first. Thanks for jogging my elbow; I spent all day at the airport to find my flight out cancelled. Sigh.) Gadgets is the two of us, plus three little elves, working like mad to get the product shipped. That answer it? .ga. <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> NYes, thanks, now 2 more questions and I will be out of your way Holly (grin), how much will all this cost me and can I get the Apple Roms from you or do I have to go thru an apple dealer? ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sandy: The Spectre retails at $179.95, plus a bit for S+H. The ROMs are sometimes available from Apple dealers, but we've found a much more reliable set of sources that we give out to people needing ROMs. (When you place an order, call, and we'll give you an exact amount for S+H). We're not allowed to sell the Apple ROMs, which is fine by us. .ga. <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> Can I get an average price for usable roms? that is (enough memory to run what I need) Database, Spreadsheet G.A. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> I think perhaps you're mixing up ROM and RAM. The ROMs are pre-stored, 128K long, and usually go for $99. The RAM is a different issue. Generally, Mac programs require 512K, some require up to 2 megs, depending on which one. <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> Sorry for the mix-up, so 128k ROM will be all I need? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Hypercard requires 750K. Thus, a 1040 ST, which gives you an 832K "Mac", works with just about all Mac programs (very few exceptions), and especilly, works with Hypercard. If you're confused, be sure to ask for the Mac Plus ROMS (128K), as opposed to the 64K "Fat Mac" or "Skinyy Mac" ROMs. <[Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE> ok, thank you very much for the Information...GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Oh, by the way, you need two ROMs ... (there's 64K per ROM, for 128 total, in the set) <[Xorg] PIONEER> Has Apple found out about Spectre yet and if so what is their reaction? I.e. should I rush out and buy now before their lawyers get in the mood for work? ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> *grin* I imagine they found out about us today, when we made the front page of MacWeek. I think it's the best prank of my career; <[Xorg] PIONEER> I thought you'd like this question... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> I'm seated in front of my ST, with Hypercard onscreen, and a .50 cal ammo belt around my shoulders. Really different picture. Anywho, judging from my dP days, Apple will probably look into it, grumble a bit, and ignore it; they're shipping 50,000 Macs per month, and we're small potatoes to them. (Also, don't overlook the possibility that factions within Apple support us, in that we're trying to standardize 68000 machines around the Mac interface, which Apple badly needs to do. Most magazines have run editorials calling on Apple to license their OS to the industry to end the present confusion. I've tyalked to many Apple people that quietly support what we're doing, including some of the designers of the original Mac.) So, in summary, Not a word from Apple, they probably found out today ("Hey, Pierre, who's this nut with the ammo belt?"), and they probably could care less. .ga <[Xorg] PIONEER> Sounds good, once I get a real job my order will be... on the way, thanks and best wishes! ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Many thanks! (I understand about jobs.. believe me..) <[Robert] R.ARIES> I know that the original MS doesn't support midi s/w. Does that situation change w/ Spectre? ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Alas, no; I've never found a way to hook Mac MIDI programs up. But, I never say never anymore; I still get people gleefully quoting Dave Small as saying "I'll nevert do the 128's". The problem is the Mac MIDI programs tying themselves exclusively into the Mac hardware for timing purposes. I'm more than happy to talk to Mac s/w developers to show them how to fix this, so give the peoople at Opcode or Mark of the Unicorn a call! (You let them know you're interested, they'll be calling us...) .ga. <[Robert] R.ARIES> sigh...that's what I thought...thanks anyway...ga Thanks! Dave (and Doug)... Just one question...Will Transverter be shipping in the near future with the Spectre and will it have enhancements over the previous versions? (HFS support, etc) and how will all of us who already bought the Spectre get the updates when they become available? GA <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> (Holly: Can you unlock d.n. wheeler for this question, please?) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> John, bug fixes are always given away free; major enhancements, we charge around $20 for. We'll send out a newsletter whenever 2.0 is ready for public view, and let everyone know who's registered or is on our mailing list (such as if you bought at the shows). I plan on licensing Transverter for Spectre rev. 2, which will be done whenver I can fix this blasted 832K bug (64K ROMs). I don't believe Doug plans to support HFS, since it's insane basically, but MFS should work fine. <[Doug] D.N.WHEELER> OK, for starters, Transverter 4.20 will support all manner of MFS disks (Spectre, Magic Sac, HD partitions, real Mac Disks (with the Translator). HFS is on hold. ?SSome one of these days I may give it a shot (i'll basically have to just jump right in then adjust things until it works...) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Does that answer the question? (Thanks, Doug) Yes, it does. One last comment.. <[Doug] D.N.WHEELER> I have a feeling that HFS is no where near as complex as Apple's documentation! ga Just wanted to thank Dave, Sandy, Doug, and Mark for providing us with a great application. Thanks guys and keep up the good work! <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> You're welcome, John. Keep on supporting everyone from the Atari end! *grin* By the way, the Gadgets Roundtable would be active by now, but our Genie contact is presently ill; look for it in a week or two. .ga. <[Julius] J.OKLAMCAK> Dave, first, I want to thank you for the best hack of the decade and I hope some of the Mac Zealots out there are having fits that a mere 'Atari' is running 'their' software...and since Ken took two of my two questions I have come up with a third: Any plans on supporting the Atari CD ROM player under Spectre? ;-) ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> For instance, under Hypercard? <[Julius] J.OKLAMCAK> Yes, why not. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> If we can get one, we'll try to support it (as with the laser printer). Right now the CD-ROM industry is in a state of flux, just settling into some standards; hopefully Atari can drop the present ridiculous price of CD players to something people can afford, as they did with monochrome monitors, RGB, and 68000 systems. (Fortunately for me, there's folks like Julius out there supporting developers like me.) ga. <[Julius] J.OKLAMCAK> Need any, err...assistance, in getting one? :-) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Certainly! <[Julius] J.OKLAMCAK> Wilco, see what we can do. (I'm done). ga. <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> Hi Dave and Sandy... Flying DELTA??? -mike <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Nope, Continental, the proud bird with the brass *ss. <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> The Mac interface is very well standardized and documented much more so than GEM (darn DRI!!)... For us aspiring software companies (aspiring to your hieghts!)...Could the Spectre 128 be a viable development system for Mac. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Yes indeed. First, it's faster than a Mac -- the hard disk is faster than a Mac II!! -- and it's very compatible with the development systems, like Lightspeed, etc. Second, if you develop on an ST, you've ensured no machine dependencies that accidentally creep into Mac code a lot. Third, if you get a Nil handle, a very common Mac programming bug, the Spectre can be told to tell you so you can find it -- which you can't really do on a Mac. I know for a fact, Apple uses a Magic Sac to trace Nil handles on some of its s/w projects... So, I'd give it a try, before investing big $$$ in a Mac, if nothing else to see how like the Mac OS environment. .ga. <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> Thanx... Along this line, does the Spectre provide any additional debugging info, or possible internal tracing and access more than the mac... and do you know how well the Mac debuggers (which show system calls, etc) work under Spectre? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Hmmm. I believe TMONworks okay, and Jasik's MacNosey; they're pretty powerful. The Spectre will tell you all sorts of gruesome things if you crash -- register dump, etc, and the crash type, which beats plotting bombs onscreen *grin* Other than that, it's about as helpful as the debug tool you use. Tmon seems to be the debugger of choice on the Mac, although I hear rumours of a better MacsBug on the way. .ga. <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> I thought the Magic Sac had something out the serial port...does Spectre have an equivalent tracer/debugger? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Oh, that's a Dave Debug-only sort of thing, when I'm trying to fgixix bugs in the code itself. It allows me to run SID with Mac programs to trace them. There isn't access to this in the release version. .ga <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> SID... I thought I only used that, still. One more...Wanna release some of your crib notes??? Publish a book... ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Now, who would be interested in the details of running Mac software on a generic 68000 box? Let's see.... Sun, Amiga, Apollo, Apple, *grin*, Atari,... yep, I'd sell 5 copies. .ga. <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> We use an in house 68000 box at work, for a POS terminal using OS/9... don't forget that! .ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Dan Moore says he uses a 68K box for an AT+T terminal as well... <[Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2> MAC OS/9... ga holly... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sure wish Apple would license the interface instead of trying to keep it all for themselves. Sometimes a slice of a much bigger pie is a better thing. Dave, a two part question, who designed the MAC disk adaptor (Translator?), and how does it work? By changing the actual disk speed, or the rate the data is read? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> jb> I'm not sure my nondisclosure will let me name names. He's an old friend of mine that used to run my computer club in high school, and a real expert on Mac disks. It works well! It works by varying the read/write data clock, on a standard speed drive. Problem with the Translator is it sends the data via MIDI, which chokes the speed way down; the basic drive hardware is capable of Magic format speed (e.g., 1:1), but MIDI throttles it way back. ga. So the code in the ST prevented the use of the Disk port on the ST? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> No, the 1772 floppy controller is totally incompatible with Apple's GCR format (the 1772 uses MFM, a whole different breed of cat). You need new chips to handle GCR. If it were code, hey, that would be no problem .. *grin* (The Translator ROM chip had 12,000 lines of 8080 assembler in it.) So the Translator has new controller chips, sort of a stand alone half/MAC? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Yes. The Translator is a standalone computer, with a Z80 CPU, 8K RAM, 32K ROM, and talks with disk and MIDI ports. That's the reason it was so blasted expensive and slow; the raw parts cost, I believe, was $115 per unit. (!!) Wow, and I program the Z-80, finally MC I can understand! :-) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Now, if we can get rid of the CPU ($12), the RAM ($5), the ROM ($8), the MIDI ($??), the power supply ($10), we can really cut the cost down -- abnd the performance will go way up. .ga. All done, thanks for the info... Hi Dave and Sandy. First a couple of questions for Sandy.... Sandy, The dealer orders for the Sept. 23rd shipment. Did they go out yet? Also the order was placed before Sept 15th so did that qualify for the introductory price? GA. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Dealer orders are not out yet; I'm going to call you to decide the box issue, as we discussed above (we can ship with plainer packaging immediately, or wait) If you placed order b4 the 15th, the discount is based on the introductory price. .ga. So no dealer orders have been shipped. ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Some that we have talked to that accepted the plainer packaging have been shipped already; we're working our way through the list. It takes a lot of time to call individual dealers. Ok, now for Dave... We need a viable way to read Mac disks. Is that possible!! <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Well, I hate to talk about vaporware. But imagine for a moment (Strictly hypothetically, you understand) if we take a Mac read/write circuit (about 8 chips), add it to a cartridge, and you plug it into your disk drive? That way, you could r/w Mac disks instantly, no hassles, low cost, and very high speed -- 1:1 speed (read in whole disk in 17 sec, I believe). Funny thing, there's these schematics under my elbow (hint, hint, hint) *grin* .g. Yes, I love hypothetical!!!! Thanks ga. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Got in later once again so, I may be repeating myself.. First, Sandy it's a shame you could not make it to Wash I really wanted a 'I met Sandy' button! Dave,.. How long until a 64K ROM 832K version of your software is available, you see it seems that 128K ROMS are hard to come by <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Welp, I've been beating my brains out trying to find the bug that is preventing the 832K mode from working. It only happens on 64K ROMs, and only on 1 meg RAM machines. It is very difficult to find, as there is no room to squeeze a debugger in in that mode. Still, I've got some ideas. What's weird is that the 128K ROMs work fine in 832K mode, so it's probably just one pointer that's gone wild. It's just finding *which one*, in 27,000 lines of code, that's bothering me. Realistically, we're talking a couple of weeks until version 1.6 is out that fixes these piddly little bugs. Sure was irritating to miss that one; I checked out 832K obn a 4 meg machine, and it worked fine, so it fooled me. As for the 128's, did you call Denny Hayes? <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Oh, I miss the 300K RAM disk that has my system on it so I can have a two drive system (no hard disk).... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Brian > True, but 832K is much slower off floppy -- no cache installed. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Yes but I still don't know what is happening with him its been two weeks. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> 512K mode is much faster. Still, I see your point with the ramdisk. Brian > Bug him again -- he's pretty reliable. (Lots of people here have gotten ROMs from him -- he's probably just swamped.) <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Thanks, next... I would like to add my vote to you list of thing to do...Add a way to read MAC disks PLEASE! thanks Dave + Sandy, that's all. Have you seen Roger Rabbit? Yes and? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> "Please, stop pulling my ears!" *grin* <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> You got me there! <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We're working on it as fast as we can. As soon as the little release bugs are gone, it's back to new R+D, and you can bet that's a top priority, right up there with the Atari laser printer support. Look for an announcement around Christmastime, would be my guess. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> One more question...I just remembered to ask... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Does this mean you're sorry for every time you pulled my ears, Eddie? <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Does the RAM caching make copies faster. You know the write a little read it back sequence the MAC does? Does the MAC RAM cache do that? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Yes, it does, by shortening the verify cycle (which is 1/3 of copying time.) We did the cache primarily to speed up the Translator a little, since it was so slow. Don't know on the Mac RAM cache; I'm scared of it, after reading that it isn't always flushed to disk with some programs. So, I usually turn it off. .ga. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Oh, so you suggest to never use it? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Well, that's what I personally do ... sorry.) .ga. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> That was you suggest to never use the MAC RAM cache, but run in 512K mode. Will HyperCard run that way? done. ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Welp, I'll get the 832K mode cured as soon as I find the bug (I have worked real hard on that). Hypercard already works in 832K mode; remember; you must use *128* ROMs to run Hypercard (and 60 other things), not 64's. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> I know, I know.... Hope to be running soon.... <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Me, too. Go for 512K right now, until I get that fixed. <[Brian] B.S.OPLINGER> Good luck to you all, Love your Product. All done. <[Holly] HS> I'm done taking people for questions... we have 4 people still in line. After that, we'll open up to frenzy mode so people can ask them that way.... thanks! Only 1 easy question Dave. Since my company put ST Development on indefinate hold I now have a beautiful Mega4 at home. Can I use it to work at home and will it run WordPerfect Mac (what I am now working on)? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We wrote the manual on WordPerfect Mac ...err, it needs a little work. Has some nice ideas, though; keep going on it. I've not Translated over WordPerfect yet, in the crunch to get other things done, so I don't know, but it most likely will; every major application has worked so far. (A few minor exceptions.) Give it a shot .. I bet it works. ye ha, how fast will you ship 1 if I get the check? done. ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We're backordered until first week of November, but have a whole bunch of boards coming in around then, so we ought to catch up. (The ordering curve has been going straight up ...) Going back a bit... This hypothetical addition to the Spectre that allows you to read Mac format disks... Will it allow you to read them with an internal drive as well? ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> John > Certainly. The internal and external drives both hook up to a common bus, which is available to the external disk connector. Thus, you hook up *anywhere* on the disk cabling daisy chain, and you can access read-data and write-data, and that's all it takes. We proved the basic idea of reading variable speed Mac disks with a constant speed Atari drive in the Translator; now I want to speed it up and cut the price *way* down. .ga. Thanks... and looking forward to seeing you tomorrow! ga <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> John > Many thanks for offering to set me up with a CRT at Atari -- I appreciate that. Dave, couple of quick ones... Translator works ok with spectre (not balsphemy)? Will a mover be made availabel to handle the HFS formats? and finally are there any problems accessing MAC files directly from ST applications through the translator (data files...)? (Last... Any chance of getting "I ALMOST MET SANDY!" buttons? .ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> While I won't get Mover, I will get Transverter, which is better anyway (true). on the release 2 disks. You can't access Mac files *directly* from inside ST applications; you must first move them to the GEM disk/partition, then run the application. And, I imagine Sandy will show up at Comdex a little while (if she can get her lazy husband to watch the dervishes), so there's a good chance of getting a good button. .ga. Thanks <>, one followup (I'm new to the MAC stuff) How are the long filenames/spaces commas etc handled when moving to gem partitions, do I have to rename these files? <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Welp, about 31 characters are allowed, unless I'm forgetting something. You have to rename them if they're not legal GEM names (e.g., 11 ASCII characters) <[Doug] D.N.WHEELER> Transverter makes an attempt to produce a readable ST filename out of the Mac one. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We're not receiving here -- Oh, we're back, whew As Genie hiccups (How did sales go at washington? (snuck one in [grin])) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Sold all but a few in one box -- real howling mob first day. sandy: "I love it!" .ga. Thank you. Very much! ... Holly? .ga. Thank you. First, it must be very gratifying to have such a successful product. I'm glad for you, and glad for the Atari community. Second, what does the Spectre do about Mac sound? Do you try to approximate it with the GI sound chip? Third, have you tried MPW? what about Apple's new debugger, SADE? ...and compilers, and multi-finder, and...the heavy guns. ga. <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> It is gratifying. dP was two years of my life at pretty low pay; perhaps here is my chance to even things up a little bit. Maybe I'll even get back to where I'd be if I worked for a company! Sound is currently in there in the hidden dedication page; it works off a 22 khz timer interrupt in the Mac sound area, $7fd00 for 370 bytes per frame. Haven't tried MPW, really; I'm still getting back into "C" first. Multifinder works, but is unstable (I have to coerce it into giving me back the bus error vector so it doesn't crash me), compilers all seem cool, and gee, no one at Apple let me know about SADE. I'm crushed. Do you suppose they're mad at me over something? You should try to run MPW .. I'd like to know if it works, that's all. I thought SADE was released now -- can't you just buy it (?) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Coming from someone at Atari, that's interesting.. *grin* Hadn't heard about SADE .. Let us see here. SADE and MPW. First initials. "S+M". Yep, that describes it well. ga. Well, thanks. Those are the Big Guns of Mac development, so I wanted to know <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> Heck, let's try 'em out tomorrow. if you'd tried them under the Spectre. Anyway, I'm done.. Ga, I don't have them; I've just seen them. Again, I'm done.. Thanks. <[Holly] HS> Well, that's about all for the formal part this evening... thank you all! I should mention (loudly!) that in two weeks (the 19th) our guests will be Gribnif software, Dan Wilga and Rick Flashman, those fun people who brought us NeoDesk! They have a new version coming out. Dave/Sandy... any final comments before I open this up into Frenzy Mode? :-) <[Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL> We appreciate all the many nice things people have said, and all the support we've gotten. The GEnie conference back in june/july is the reason we did the Spectre 128, so it all started here; it's sort of a community effort. We really appreciate it. Thanks for coming, and I hope you enjoyed it. Be sure to check out the MacWeek pic; it's something else.. *grin* .ga. <[Holly] HS> And thank YOU!! I've got my ROMs... just waiting for my Spectre now. and thanks for being fast typists! *grin* okay... into Frenzy Mode we go... Room is now in the talk mode. -J Participants: Job City Room Sta Mail-Address 1 Houston,TX 1 N [Double Click] M.VEDERMAN2 2 Hadley,MA 1 N [Dan] GRIBNIF 3 Bartlesville,OK 1 N J.VOGH 4 Englewood,CO 1 N [Dave+Sandy] DAVESMALL 5 Paterson,NJ 1 N [Vince] V.AVERELLO 6 Storrs,CT 1 N [Xorg] PIONEER 7 Freeport,NY 1 N [BEDDY BARE] JOHN-CARTER 8 Mt prospect,IL 1 N [Dan.Reif] D.REIFSNYDER 9 Travis afb,CA 1 N [Doug] D.N.WHEELER 10 Erehwon,CA 1 N [Ken @ Atari] SYNERGIST 11 Billings,MT 1 N BHEIN 12 Markham,ON 1 N [Julius] J.OKLAMCAK 13 Villerica,MA 1 N D.ZIZZA 14 Atlantic high,NJ 1 N K.BARRY2 15 Reseda,CA 1 N M.MARKOWITZ 16 Lompoc,CA 1 N D.HADLAND 17 Indianapolis,IN 1 L [Holly] HS 18 San diego,CA 1 N W.POOLE3 19 Fullerton,CA 1 N [Mike] C.REYNOLDS 20 Fairport,NY 1 N D.HOLTZ 21 Akron,OH 1 N [Mr.Goodprobe] W.WHITTON 22 Stamford,CT 1 N [Robert] R.ARIES 23 Bolton,CT 1 N ED-SECKLER 24 Irving,TX 1 N D.MAULDIN 25 Bellevue,WA 1 N I.-BERG 26 Woodbury,MN 1 N L.BREY 27 Mountain view,CA 1 N [Fred] FB 28 Sunnyvale,CA 2 M [Jimbo@Atari] JTITTSLER 29 Germantown,MD 1 N B.BIGGS 30 Bemidji,MN 1 N C.HAGGERTY 31 Brighton,MA 1 N W.CHOW 32 Ocala,FL 1 N [Jim] J.DOSSEY 33 Brookfield,CT 1 N DARLAH 34 Modesto,CA 1 N D.NICOLAU 35 Rockville,MD 1 N [John] JKUEHN 36 Arlington hgh,IL 1 N JEFFWILLIAMS 37 Salisbury,NC 1 N [Bill] W.SCHOONMAKE 38 Columbus,OH 1 N ROCKYFELLER 39 Wilmington,NC 1 N A2.DOUG 40 Bowling green,KY 1 N THE-MASTER 41 Piedmont,CA 1 N [Darryl] DMAY 42 Washington,DC 1 N D.LYLES 43 Fremont,CA 1 N TOWNS 44 Staten island,NY 1 N T.MCCOMB 45 Wilmington,DE 1 N N.CALTUNA 46 Foster city,CA 1 N APRATT 47 Madison,CT 1 N R.HUEFFMAN 48 San jose,CA 1 N [Mark @ Atari] MJANSEN 49 La habra,CA 1 N BOBBRODIE 50 Colorado spri,CO 1 N BDHALL 51 Palatine,IL 1 N MOIETY 52 Mendon,MA 1 N B.DECK (end of text)  Some info I got: HARDWARE - 68030 Microprocesor by Motorola (running at 25 MHz) - 68882 Floating Point Unit by Motorola (25 MHz) - 56001 Digital Signal Processor by Motorola. This unit, the DSP, provides fast array processing and allows the sythesis of sounds. - Two custom VLSI chips for various I/O & video operations - The Integrated Channel Processor (ICP) and the Optical Storage Processor (OSP). The former provides 12 DMA (direct memory access) channels for managing I/O and freeing up the 68030. The latter controls the optical drive interface and error correction circuitry. - 8 MB RAM with (4 or 8 MB upgrade optional) - 256K dedicated video RAM (seperate from system RAM) - 256 MB optical disk (330 MB or 660 MB Winchester optional) - Optional 400dpi laser printer. All Postscript imaging is done in the computer. - A black cube, one foot a side, containing the single-board (which includes everything) and room for three other full sized boardMessage: 32 (#2432) Title: Electronic Mail Base: E-Mail Author: Jean Conrad To: Bob Crowell Posted: At 7:41:58 am On 10/11/88 Gorillas in the Mist is wonderful. We both enjoyed it very much. Sigourney Weaver is great as Diane Fossey and Bryan Brown has a good small role as a National Geographic cameraman who becomes her lover. I also liked the guy who played her loyal African tracker but I couldn't remember his name. The story is about a young woman who is determined to go out alone into the highlands to do a census of the extremely rare and endangered mountain gorilla. She convinces Dr Louis Leakey to sponsor her and even though she has no prior experience or training (she is a physical therapist by trade) she manages to learn a lot with only a little help from a book written by another gorilla researcher. Pretty soon, she has become an authority in the field herself and is publishing books and articles of her own and remains completely independent with only an occasional letter from DR Leakey asking her to save money by smoking cheaper cigarettes or that the Leakey foundation will not reimburse her for the hair dryer that she had to leave behind when she was thrown out of the country by the Belgian Congo rebellion. I love animal stories and this one is a great one so it has my recommendations. Mom fell asleep during one part towards the middle so it may be a bit slow for some. Rs. 90-270V power supply is in the cube. The board provides, through the back of the computer, two serial ports, one port for the printer, one "thin" Ethernet connector, and one connector for the cable supplying video & power to the monitor. (Thie cable also gets back keyboard, mouse, and speech data from the monitor.) - 17" monochrome monitor, providing 1120x832 pixels at two bits per pixel. (Two bits/pixel implies four gray levels, rather than two, and allows for richer graphics.) Monitor includes 8 bit codec for voice input and 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo digital to analog convertor. Stereo headphone, microphone, and audio line-out jacks are included. - Keyboard and two button mouse. Power, volume, and brightness controls are on the keyboard. SOFTWARE System software - Mach OS (BSD 4.3 compatible) - Ethernet support with NFS for transparent networking - Postscript window server - System administration tools Development Tools - Objective C development environment, including GNU C compiler and GNU debugger from the Free Software Foundation - Allegro Common Lisp from Franz, Inc. - Berkeley Unix utilities - Interface Builder; a tool to allow developers to create their user interfaces graphically and to connect the user interface to underlying software objects provided by NeXT or developed by themselves with minimum of programming. - Object oriented software kits: Application Kit (graphical user interface objects), Sound Kit, Music Kit Applications - Workspace manager (icon & browser oriented interface to the file system) - MailApp (Unix compatible mail program, including voice mail) - WriteNow - Mathematice by Wolfram Research, Inc - Sybase SQL Server by Sybase, Inc 50 Megabyte Digital Library, including: - Oxford Complete Works of Shakespeare - Merriam-Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary - Merriam-Webster's Thesaurus - User and programmer manuals Educational price of base system is $6500. This includes the above software, the computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse, 8 MB RAM, and one 256 MB optical drive with one optical cartridge. The laser printer is $2000, and the 330 MB and 660 MB Winchester drives are $2000 and $4000 respectively. Systems with version 0.8 of system software will be shipping to commercial and university developers during 4th quarter of 1988. E Section [L] Library ] Who called today? [M] MAGAZINE section <-( NEW! ) [Y] Your Stats [N] Read system News file [Z] Survey/Polls [O] Other BBS numbers [*] List all current bases [P] Parameters [=] Goto message base [?] Display this menu [/] Goto 1st base w/new msgs Well, I just got back from the NeXT introduction at Davies Symphony Hall in San Francisco and thought I would update the net on what Steve Jobs announced about the NeXT computer. The machine is based on the Motorola 68030 with a 68882 floating point chip as well as a 56001 DSP chip, all running at 25 MHz. It will support up to 16 MB of RAM with 1 Mbit chips, maybe 64 MB with 4 Mbit chips (they haven't tried this yet). Mass storage is on a 256 MB removable erasable optical disk! Jobs said that the removable media goes for about $50. The display is a gray-scale mega-pixel display (no exact sizes given). There was no mention of color. Everything is displayed with Display PostScript, developed jointly by NeXT and Adobe. This apparently runs with a proprietary window system. There was no mention of X Windows. Also standard are audio input and output, ethernet, and SCSI. Jobs said that with the standard sound capabilities, all that is needed for a 9600 bps modem is some software and a phone connection. The entire CPU board consists of 45 chips as compared to 100+ for a fast PC and 300+ for a typical workstation. Everything has been crammed onto a 12 inch square board through the use of very dense surface mounted devices, and a few large custom CMOS chips. Two of these chips implement what Jobs called a "mainframe on two chips". These basically provide fast I/O processors for all I/O systems including the optical disk, SCSI, ethernet, sound processors (I assume the DSP and A/D-D/A converters) and the NuBus. The NuBus is run at 25 MHz (Jobs compared it to a 10 MHz NuBus, is this what the Mac II uses?). The SCSI interface was reported to have a 4 MB/sec. transfer rate. There are 12 I/O processors total. The CPU box has 4 slots, 1 is used by the CPU board, the others were empty. The box itself is a black cube a foot on a side. The display, keyboard and two-button mouse are also black. The display has an integral adjustable height and tilt stand. The display is connected to the CPU box with a single 3 meter cable which transmits the 100 MHz video, power, sound, keyboard and mouse data. The back of the display has connectors for the keyboard and mouse, along with a speaker, microphone and headphone jacks and gold-plated RCA stereo jacks. The sound capabilities of the system were impressive, being able to record and playback high-quality sound. Using the DSP chip some very realistic sounding music was generated on the fly in real-time. The box, display, and everything else looked very modern and high-tech - all black. The operating system is based on MACH with NFS support. On top of this is Display PostScript. Above this is what NeXT is calling NextStep. This consists of their window server, interface builder, application builder and workspace. This is what was licensed by IBM. On top of this are the applications. When you login, you get a browser several icons, and a menu on the screen. The browser lets you move quickly from directory to directory, and to run applications or open icon based directory windows. The root menu is always on the screen, always on top, and may be positioned anywhere on the screen (and even off the screen). The menus cascade, and the submenus may be torn off and left on the screen. Along the right edge is what I think Jobs called the icon dock. It is a set of icons for commonly used applications which are kept on the left edge, and are always on top. If you need the screen space, this column of icons may be slid down off the screen, leaving only the NeXT icon showing. Icons may be freely moved in and out of the dock so you can keep what icons you use a lot there. Jobs said that the new environment should cut the time used in coding the user interface of a program from 90% to 10% of the total coding time. With the application builder Jobs said it would go to zero. The environment is object oriented, I believe based on Objective-C. You can modify existing stuff with subclassing and inherit much of the base application. The application builder lets you build an application just by placing buttons, sliders, and any other graphic objects into a window, and then attaching the the input and output objects to object messages. Software that comes bundled with the system include MACH, Display PostScript, NextStep, the sound and music tools, the digital library, WriteNow, Mail, Mathematica, Sybase and Franz Lisp. The digital library consists of Webster's 9th Collegiate Dictionary, Webster's Collegiate Thesaurus, the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations and the Complete Works of William Shakespeare on-line. There is a built in spell program and dictionary/thesaurus lookup application. A word can be selected in any window and looked up. The dictionary even includes the pictures. WriteNow is a word processing system, Mail is arpanet compatible mail, including the capability to send speech, Mathematica is for (obviously) mathematical problems and such. Sybase is a sequel database server. A PostScript laser printer was also announced the can run at either 400 dpi or in 300 dpi "draft" mode. The printer is markedly smaller (shorter) that most laser printers. No mention was given of speed. Several demos were run with rotating molecules, smooth scrolling text, voice storage and playback, speech waveforms and FFTs, etc. Everything ran well, and ran fast. Jobs announced the following prices (apparently education prices): NeXT computer: $6500 NeXT PostScript Printer: $2000 330 MB winchester disk: $2000 660 MB winchester disk: $4000 Jobs said that machines will start shipping in early November '88, the 0.8 pre-release of the software for developers will be available in Q4 '88, the 0.9 pre-release for developers and aggressive users in Q1 '89, with the 1.0 release for general consumption in Q2 '89. All in all, the machine looked good and fast, although I wonder about the fact that several desirable things were not mentioned, i.e., color monitors, X-Windows, some kind of floppy drive for software distribution, etc. I imagine a typical SCSI tape drive could be used for archival storage. I'm sure I must have left something out, but I'm sure someone will fill in the gaps and correct any mistakes I made (sometimes it was hard to hear from the nosebleed seats in the back row of the top balcony). 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Signoff Messages 2. MINUTES from past RIACE meetings 3. HOTSEAT Interviews of club members 4. Transcript of SAM TRAMIEL Conference on CIS (** NEW 10/7 **) 5. THE PIZZA INCIDENT! - A Nonsense Base Exclusive! 6. David Small commentary: THE DEATH OF ATARI ? 7. David Small reconsiders... 8. Dave Small's conference on SPECTRE 128 (** NEW 10/10 **) 9. Information on this BBS system . ]MENU RETURN Enter a number, to Exit: 10 1|c:\script\signoff.scr 2|c:\library\minutes.mnu 3|c:\library\hotseat.mnu 4|c:\library\tramiel.txt 5|c:\library\pizza.txt 6|c:\library\small.txt 7|c:\library\small2.txt 8|c:\library\smallcon.txt 9|c:\library\sysinfo.mnu @|exit &00 RIACE ST EXPRESS LIBRARY = 1. Signoff Messages 2. Minutes from past RIACE meetings 3. HOTSEAT Interviews of club members 4. Transcript of SAM TRAMIEL Conference on CIS. (** NEW 10/7 **) 5. THE PIZZA INCIDENT! - A Nonsense Base EXCLUSIVE! 6. David Small commentary: The DEATH OF ATARI ? 7. David Small reconsiders... 8. David Small's SPECTRE 128 con- ference on GEnie (** NEW 10/10 **) 9. Information on this BBS system . &00 *** The 8bit Emulator version 2.2, with new SIO Cable and drivers *** October 4, 1988 Darek Mihocka (DAREKM on Delphi, 73657,2714 on CompuServe) has done it again! His 8bit Emulator has been SERIOUSLY enhanced. He has a bizarre little device. At one end is a printer connector for your ST, and at the other is an Atari 8bit SIO connector. Yesterday I hooked up an Atari XF551 to an Atari ST and BOOTED CHOPLIFTER, and was able to PLAY IT! It's an eerie feeling to boot 8bit software on an ST, directly from an 8bit disk drive. The main menu of the emulator is largely the same, with a few changes to support this new feature. The drives have two small buttons, one for internal and one for EXTERNAL. Near the bottom left of the Atari dialog are two buttons for PRINTER or CABLE. Click on CABLE and then on BOOT and you're off to the races. I tested about a dozen commercial programs, but was completely successful with only Choplifter and Tumblebugs. The problem is the protection. Since the emulator is not 100% speed (the author claims 40%) the timing is off for most of the current protection schemes. If you have unprotected backup copies (I'm not condoning piracy - but there are utilities which create unprotected backups of software, and here that helps) they're much more likely to run. Atariwriter PLUS would not run for me from a master disk, because of Atari's protection scheme...but an unprotected version worked fine. I believe there is a separate utility (or is part of the emulator?) that allows you to move files directly from an 8bit disk drive to an ST drive, and vice versa. You may even be able to connect Atari printers (which do not require +5 volts from the SIO bus) and use them from the emulator. Actually, just about anything that uses standard 8bit SIO calls should work. I don't think that programs which use their own custom SIO handlers (such as SpartaDOS) will run under the emulator. If you own an ST, but still need occasional access to your old 8bit files this new emulator with special cable is absolutely awesome. Leave email or messages on Delphi to DAREKM or PPN 73657,2714 on CompuServe for more details on how to order yours. I'd give you more information myself, but I don't have an ST anymore - so I haven't been able to do as much testing as I'd like (I ran it at the local computer store for a couple of hours). *I Mat*Rat's results of 2 hours with the 8bit Emulator, version 2.2 and the SIO cable: Of course, as Darek predicted, the emulator had problems with most protected software. It ran just fine with Atari DOS 2.0s, BASIC and to some extent with some commercial games, depending on their protection schemes. Occasionally some GRAPHICS mode text displays, possibly using custom display lists (graphics mode 1 or 2 text usually) is skewed: LOADING ZAPPEROIDS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ST DATAMO It happened only occasionally, but I don't recall what particular games it did it with. Here are some other games we tested and the results: MOUSETRAP distributed by TDI (c) 1987 - loads OK, plays the introductory song and shows the title screen. Press START and then it dies. KORONIS RIFT - This is a LUCASFILM GAMES production. The title screen is in Atari's GTIA graphics mode 9...however it comes up in graphics mode 8 under the emulator. It loads the title screen and then crashes. However, the Lucasfilm games have a custom SIO driver for FAST loading of files, with the SIO sounds off. That's probably what crashes it. CHOPLIFTER - Total success! Choplifter by BR0DERBUND uses graphics mode 8 display for everything. It uses odd and even sets of pixels to implement color via Artifacting. On the ST you get no artifacting so the display appears more like shades of gray. It does run and play, although rather slowly. The difference between chopper control and firing the chopper's gun is the SPEED at which you smack the fire button - but that timing is very difficult to achieve when the game runs this slowly. But it does run! POOYAN - Beeps one time, the screen goes black, and the "8bit Atari computer being emulated" locks up. DRELBS - from Synaps, an old and very good game. Shows the title and then bombs out. Protection kills it as well as POOYAN above, I think. ZAXXON - Protection won't boot past sector 1. PITSTOP II - We get real CLOSE on this one. It boots, shows the title screen. The colors are a bit off, but the main display and menu selection come up. You select the mode of game play, and then start. Go to the game screen and GARBAGE! It seems to use all sorts of custom display list stuff or something. The PAWN - one of the newer games out there, it's very graphics intensive. It is NOT protected, however it would not boot and run. This game requires an XL or XE to run, using a lot of RAM bank switching to use every byte of the 8bit computer's available memory. That could be the problem. (This program would be a good test of bank switching emulation in future updates of the emulator.) Gauntlet - one of the newest and hottest games for the 8bit Atari. It boots up, but the graphics screen displays only the top 1/8 of the graphic, then it's repeated 8 times. The Mindscape logo loads and displays properly. Sound is OK. But it won't run after that garbled title screen. Atariwriter Plus - the original protected version won't boot. It shows the LOGO screen, then the display goes black, and it reboots ad infinitum. The protection clobbers it. An unprotected version runs fine in 400/800 mode. Star Raiders II - this program has the same protection as Atariwriter Plus, it bombs before anything is displayed. Raid Over Moscow - Loading screen comes up, then lockup. Protection. Spitfire 40 - Title screen loads, continues booting, and comes up OK! The game will start and you can see the view out the cockpit. However we had troubles with joystick controls - but I think an earlier test program trashed the emulator somehow. Anyway, we did not go back and retest Spitfire after reloading the emulator later. Datasoft Tumble Bugs - This one boots, deoms, and RUNS! The sound effects are fine, however this game also has digitized speech. Whenever a bug eats you the program says "gotcha". However it comes out like garbled hissing. It was interesting however. The game was completely playable, no problems other than slowness. (Playing digitized speech would be the ultimate test of a 100% speed emulator.) Glitch: If you type 1 key ahead while booting DOS, it results in a continuous key auto repeat once in BASIC, until a different key is pressed. - The cable and driver for it have done an EXCELLENT JOB! I'm very impressed - a LOT of other people will be, to see an 8bit Atari disk drive booted on an ST. It's utility for moving files between the two systems alone is very valuable. Emulation is fun, but still a not very useful until it approaches 100% speed. Currently Darek claims 40% speed emulation of the 8bit Atari. He's shooting for 100% emulation some day. If you have any affection or use for the old 8bit equipment, please register your SHAREWARE copy of the emulator and ORDER your SIO cable TODAY! Support Darek in his development of the emulator as he works toward a 100% 8bit Atari emulator! Reviewed by Mat*Rat +- + |The Emulator is by Darek Mihocka| |PPN 73657,2714 on CompuServe | |DAREKM on Delphi | +- + Z>PA 1| B >WA List):| 15| >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.1| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.1| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.2| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.2| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.3| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.3| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.4| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.4| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.5| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.5| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.6| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.6| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.7| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.7| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.8| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.8| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.9| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.9| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| CRAT.*| #7 Dan Courtney Tampa, FL Computer Type: Atari 130Xe Baud Rate: 2400 Last Called 10/15/88 Total Calls: 205 Mins On Today: 0 Logged Off At 7:45:54 pm Caller #21881 10/23/88 On At 7:50:40 pm #40 John Thornton Warwick, RI Computer Type: Atari 800Xl Baud Rate: 1200 Last Called 10/23/88 Total Calls: 26 Mins On Today: 49 Downloaded YAHTZE.ARC From ST Games Downloaded LUNAR.ARC From ST Games Downloaded LUNPIC.ARC From ST Games Logged Off At 8:09:12 pm Caller #21882 10/23/88 On At 8:23:16 pm #17 Bob Witkowski Cumberland, RI Computer Type: Atari Baud Rate: 2400 Last Called 10/23/88 Total Calls: 215 Mins On Today: 6 Downloaded INTRAM.ARC From ST Utilities Logged Off At 8:35:14 pm Caller #21883 10/23/88 On At 8:42:14 pm >PA 1| B >WA List):| 15| >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.TIT| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.TIT| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.MNU| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.MNU| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.1| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.1| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.2| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.2| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.3| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.3| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.4| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.4| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.5| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.5| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.6| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.6| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.7| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.7| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.8| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.8| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.9| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.9| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.10| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.10| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.11| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.11| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| CZ*.*| ded AZARIAN.ARC From ST Games Downloaded TENNIS.PRG From ST Games Downloaded CYCLE.ARC From ST Games Downloaded BAKGMMON.ARC From ST Games Downloaded RUNNER.ARC From ST Games Downloaded STGRAFIC.ARC From ST Graphics Logged Off At 1:38:14 am Caller #21887 10/24/88 On At 3:57:16 am #58 Jean Conrad Pawtucket, RI Computer Type: Atari Baud Rate: 2400 >PA 1| B >WA List):| 15| >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.TIT| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.TIT| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.MNU| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.MNU| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.1| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.1| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.2| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.2| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.3| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.3| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.4| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.4| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.5| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.5| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.6| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.6| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.7| >WA pad? | Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.7| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| ZMAG.8| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\ZMAG.8| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| CZ*.*| EMTEST.PRG From ST Utilities Logged Off At 9:32:24 am Caller #21890 10/24/88 On At 10:20:34 am #2 Bob Crowell Pawtucket, RI Computer Type: 520St & Xl Baud Rate: 1200 Last Called 10/23/88 Total Calls: 526 Mins On Today: 0 [C:\]-[> >PA 1| B >WA List):| 15| >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.TIT| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.TIT| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.MNU| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.MNU| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.1| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.1| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.2| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.2| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.3| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.3| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.4| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.4| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.5| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.5| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.6| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.6| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.7| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.7| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.8| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.8| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.9| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.9| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.10| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.10| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.11| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.11| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.12| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.12| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.13| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.13| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| STR.14| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\STR.14| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| CSTR.*| SIGNOFF COMPACTION LOG - 3/31/88, 8:05:30 pm 4/08/88, 3:32:32 pm 4/17/88, 10:10:42 pm 4/26/88, 10:39:34 pm 5/07/88, 11:38:36 pm 5/20/88, 2:00:58 pm 5/28/88, 10:17:22 pm 6/07/88, 7:29:52 am 6/16/88, 7:26:32 pm 6/24/88, 11:01:50 am 6/29/88, 6:24:26 pm 7/08/88, 8:27:22 am 7/15/88, 7:58:44 am 7/25/88, 10:53:50 pm 8/06/88, 12:24:26 pm 8/19/88, 7:23:02 am 9/01/88, 4:15:26 pm 9/11/88, 9:21:04 am 9/25/88, 10:12:24 am 10/14/88, 12:10:08 pm   John  10011  NY New York  33 Washington Square, W 212-420-8644  Hayden Hall 314 j2>PA 1| B >WA List):| 15| >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.TIT| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.TIT| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.MNU| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.MNU| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.1| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.1| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.2| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.2| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.3| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.3| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.4| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.4| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.5| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.5| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.6| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.6| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.7| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.7| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.8| >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| >UL XM B:\RAT.8| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| U >WA Upload:| RAT.9 >WA pad?| Y >WA Completion| UL XM B:\RAT.9| >WA RETURN...| | /AY >WA MAGAZINES:| CRAT.*|